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scratch where it itches's picture

A new basketball arena is a no brainer, which is why it won’t happen. The lack of vision and drive to match the spending prowess of Iowa athletics is appalling. Appalling, Jerry. 

Pig shit you say? Smells like $7 Billion to me.

Also, fire Gary Barta.

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Beltway Hawk's picture

on the parking issue at Carver--why not build a huge parking ramp at the site of the current main parking lot adjacent to the arena? I know ramps are slow to let out at the end of a game, but it WOULD add a lot more parking spots right by the arena. If they were smart (lololol) they could rig it so it had 2 or 3 exits. You'd have to rework the roads in/around CHA and the existing parking areas anyway, so work it so there are multiple exits that don't interfere with each other. Probably a pipe dream, but who knows? Ya can't tell me Iowa doesn't have a few million $ BigTen money to build a ramp. 

But yes, if you're going to go big, knock down the sad remnants of the Old Capitol Mall and put the new arena there, especially if you can keep the parking ramp. Hell, add another 10 levels to the parking ramp! (probably not possible, but would be cool). 

"There is no reason in the world why we shouldn't fight for the preservation of a chance to live freely, no reason why we shouldn't suffer to uphold that which we want to endure." -Nile Kinnick

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Beltway Hawk's picture

although looking at the OCM site from above (satellite view Google maps), it appears too narrow to fit an arena, unless we also demolished the engineering building and engineering library, which probably isn't in the cards.

"There is no reason in the world why we shouldn't fight for the preservation of a chance to live freely, no reason why we shouldn't suffer to uphold that which we want to endure." -Nile Kinnick

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therealCatnuts's picture

That engineering building is very new and very beautiful. I say, don’t tear it down just because we accidentally burned down the Alpha Beta house after a few rounds of Fireball, we’ll just take over the house of those engi-NERDS and move in there. 

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Beltway Hawk's picture

/head explodes from the sheer 80's-ness of that clip

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Vanilla Gorilla's picture

I watched it 15 times.  My friends brother rented it for us, and we used to watch this over and over in the summer until my friend’s mom came downstairs while the R rated content was in full view.  I took the phone off the hook at home for a week so they couldn’t call the house and tell my parents.  Being on top of my game and putting ithe phone back on when I thought they needed to make a call was peek degenerative 6th grade stuff.  Fortunately my parents had no idea.  Good times.

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Vanilla Gorilla's picture

I was 100% convinced this and Animal House were accurate college depictions.  

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chitownhawkeye's picture

I still believe the university screwed up in not knocking down the mall back around 2000 and making it a new arena.  The refurb where it went from sort of functioning but dying mall to glorified food court with conference rooms/classrooms was a desperate attempt to not have a ghost town in the middle of town, and it's fine.  But it could have been something great.

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RickShowIA's picture

Why do Canadian footballers put all of their drinks on the felt?  tsk tsk.

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Iagander's picture

I knew this comment was coming.

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7thStringRB's picture

Pretty disappointed that there’s no alternate uniform this year, thought there was mention of one possibly at media days earlier this year. Helmets look awesome though.

Fourteen years without a title, fans expecting eight and four
Every year they Never Score.

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scratch where it itches's picture

If only the coaches had used the time they didn’t spend on alternate unis on clock management and end of half/game strategies... 

Pig shit you say? Smells like $7 Billion to me.

Also, fire Gary Barta.

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Bohemian Grove's picture

Same here. 

IIRC, it was brought up to Kirk a the beginning of the season and he cited "cost" as their reason for not doing it.  The new individually-fitted helmets that they use are $1,000 apiece so that would cause a larger than normal uptick in cost for alt unis....but then again we are talking about Iowa athletics -- which has money coming out it's ears.  Then again, we are also talking about the football component of the athletic department --which literally produces the profit that the department has to invent new ways to spend.  So, while they can throw a tiger hawk on the field and water tower, a line must be drawn on what they can deliver to the players and fans of the program. 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯             

That's budgeting.

Honestly what good are alt unis anyway?  Get fans more interested excited for a game.  Win a game (that will never be forgotten by any of your fans) against a top 3 or 4 team while the alt unis are being worn. Attract recruits with trendy threads.  

Sorry, I'm just pissed about this season and this seemed an appropriate place to let some sarcasm out.

I didn't break my leg for no shit. -Drake Kulick

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HoustonHawkeye's picture

They don't have the $$ for alt unis - they're on a payment plan for their legal settlements and those last 2 more years...

I strongly prefer winning over losing.

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Bohemian Grove's picture

LOL! Who down voted?  C'mon that's funny! 

I didn't break my leg for no shit. -Drake Kulick

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Vanilla Gorilla's picture

That’s well done.  That’s cool that Barta has a GIA account.  He’s has to be the only one who would down vote.

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IowaPharmer's picture

I posted this on the alternate helmet piece, but will also post it here (sorry if this is redundant):

On the OnIowaPodcast, they kinda hashed out the whole alternate uniform thing. Basically, because of the new helmet design (to reduce concussions), they really can’t do alternates with helmet changes. Sure, they can change the uniform, but, to change the helmet would require Ridell to swap the helmet shell for the whole interior, which is quite a process, apparently. I’m ok with this, if it keeps the team safe. Although, since we’ve had a few players on concussion protocol, you could certainly argue that they’re not the most effective. The counter argument would be that the concussions we’ve experienced could have been worse. I’m not a concussion expert, so I’ll default to those with more knowledge in the area. It seems reasonable, however. 

I know the kids like cool, new uniforms, but, I’m more inclined to make sure these kids have a future. You all know what concussions can to to a person. Miss you, Tyler. 

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Realmakoi's picture

We don't need to swap anything with the helmets. We can add a thin shell on the existing helmet. It actually has better concussion protection as well. Iowa State tried them a couple of years ago. I didn't care for the look myself, but I'm sure the kids liked it.

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Bohemian Grove's picture

I get it and am fully supportive of taking any/all measures to prevent injuries, especially permanent/chronic/traumatic brain injuries.  I just couldn't believe that money would hinder their ability to wear alt unis for one game....and the way I read the article at the time was that it basically came down to dollars and cents although it did pertain to safety too.  I believe that timing was probably a factor as well, getting the new safety-enhanced helmets fitted to each player took long enough for the regular uniforms and would add a significant amount of time to go through that whole process again just for a uniform that'd be worn for a single game.

TL;DR(?) - they could've ponied up more money to do an alt helmet (and uni) that included the new safety features, but chose not to.

I didn't break my leg for no shit. -Drake Kulick

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IowaPharmer's picture

Good point. This is a fair statement. One one side, I appreciate fiscal responsibility, but on the other hand, the alternate unis have been cool lately, and if we gotta put up with Rutgers and Maryland, we should at least get something nice for ourselves out of that deal (other than a new end zone arrangement). Or I should say, the student athletes who have earned a piece of that should get something nice out of that deal. 

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Realmakoi's picture

I'm pretty sure the moving forward by moving forward is a John Madden quote. I can't find it right now, but it's along the lines of these.

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they’re bigger than everybody else, and that’s what makes them the biggest guys on the field."

"Well, when you're playing good football, it's good football and if you don't have good football, then you're not really playing good football."

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therealCatnuts's picture

Holy cow is Jovon dripping in swag. That’s a lot of gold. 

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women, and song. The other half I wasted.

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RecksNFX's picture

Phil Parker getting a puff piece from Marc following a game where his coaching decisions could called into question. I wonder if this one was already in the works before the game or if it was written in his defense.

Phil develops defense backs second to none and teaches his base scheme very thoroughly.

His schemes also have predictable tendencies that he fails to account for. He also doesn't make adjustments fast enough once the opposition shows they've gotten it figured out.

But Saturday had a lot to do with a lack of depth and experience at CB due to Rugamba and Jackson moving on and Ojemudia and Hankins being injured\unavailable. Brents was recruited as a safety and a he's a true frosh and he's the best CB we have. I know there's players on the roster that were recruited to play CB but if they aren't playing it makes one think that it's for a good reason.

Saturday sucked, but considering the CB situation it could have been worse.

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CRAYONS's picture

I would guess the piece had been in the works for a while.

I've been somewhat unhappy with Phil over the past two weeks -- mostly just Penn St. where he was way too aggressive and that boned us.  Regarding Purdue, going into the game and even now, I'm not sure who I'd rather have between Moss and quasi-injured OJ.  It was pick your poison because neither guy is a lock down DB right now.  The only thing that could have helped was scheming more safety assistance.  But I can also understand Phil thinking we needed our safeties needed to be laser-focused on Rondale Moore.  Sometimes the other teams strengths hit your weaknesses.

But any unhappiness I've had is a really short run emotion.

Over a longer evaluation period, I think Phil is just an outstanding coach.  His eye for talent is uncanny and he can develop and scheme well.  I don't know if there is another coordinator in the country I would trade him for.

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Chuck Long Duk Dong's picture

Fry is looking old :( 

no more yankey Chuck's wankey

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therealCatnuts's picture

Celebrate his living this long! The man looks good wearing a 1978 dress shirt that he wore to his 50th birthday party!

I spent half my life's earnings on wine, women, and song. The other half I wasted.

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WaterlooChazz's picture

He's 89.  He can still stand and smile into a camera.  

Thank you, Mr. Fry!

I never wanted to Fire Ferentz. Good bye and good luck, Gary.

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IowaPharmer's picture

Sadly, yes he is. Battling Cancer has a way of doing that (and I’m not calling you out, just pointing out what a brass set of balls this guys has). On the plus side, the guy looks great for being 89. I don’t expect to make it that far. Something something alcohol and Hawkeye fanaticism....

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chitownhawkeye's picture

Exactly.  It's nothing to sneeze at to simply make it to 89.  Throw in the rigors of coaching and battling cancer, and it's damn impressive.

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Brinzerian Wisdom's picture

CHA and Old Capitol . . . two things built without enough forethought into what the world would be like 30-40 years later.  CHA was, in its day, an architectural achievement, in the same way the Astrodome was.  It seemed "perfect" at a time when people had no idea what "good" was.  Now, it's just an unworkable cement tomb for the program.

Old Capitol was BUMPIN' circa '89.  But then bigger malls came, and then malls fell out of fashion, and then the internet, and now it's nothing but the worst classroom building on campus.  

Correct both mistakes.  Put in a tight arena that seats just enough and has the atmosphere of the Ped Mall at 2am.  

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therealCatnuts's picture

Was agreeing with you until “Ped Mall 2am atmosphere”

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Vanilla Gorilla's picture

Does that mean we can put the grilled cheese vendor in a headlock or I can throw up randomly and just keep walking?  I’m in.

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Beltway Hawk's picture

/pours one out for Aladdin's Castle

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Vanilla Gorilla's picture

Yes sir

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Vanilla Gorilla's picture

CHA sucks.  The whole thing sucks.  Putting $1500 folding chairs and tables out makes it look like worse. Sometimes you need to gut the house to make it fit your needs.  Gut the thing and don’t do a half ass job.

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WaterlooChazz's picture

CHA does not suck.

We just need to get one or two seasons of actual winning going on in there, and have more start times near 7 pm, and it will get rocking again.

Does anyone really feel that it will be easy to get in and out of the Old Capitol area for 10k or 15k people on a winter evening?  I don't.

If the "powers that be" really wanted 5 or 10 luxury suites, they could easily build them at the inner edge of the concourse of CHA.  And if you thought the old folks killed the atmosphere, imagine what a lower bowl in a new arena, for only the rich, and a ring of luxury suites at the 25th row, will do?  It won't be loud.    

If you want to solve all these issues, you build a new arena out near one of the highways.  But, good luck getting students to go there, particularly when the team dips back near NIT or .500.

Or, better yet, just start winning. 

I never wanted to Fire Ferentz. Good bye and good luck, Gary.

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Vanilla Gorilla's picture

It sucks. If you do it right you let the students get close like at the Breslin Center or when they redid Crisler Arena.  You can defend it all you want, your opinion.  It will never be good.  Tear it down or remodel it so it is a state of the art multi-purpose facility and give the university options for concerts, different sports (hockey), and other income generating opportunities.  

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WaterlooChazz's picture

It does not suck.

It was actually a decent place for the NIT games that Fran has had, when a decent crowd shows up.

All we need to do is get competitive-to-good in the B10, and the crowds will come.  You'll see.

A multi-purpose place, for concerts, etc?  NO.  If you've been to the Knapp Center in Des Moines, or seen Rutgers's arena, you'd know that that type of place isn't very good.

I never wanted to Fire Ferentz. Good bye and good luck, Gary.

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therealCatnuts's picture

Weird times when I find myself 100% behind a Chazz comment, but here we are. +1. And for the 100th time, please give students a big portion of the floor seats at low cost. It’s their university, their team, and their right. Fuck the entirely meaningless 1% difference in AD revenues generated by the blue hairs , give me 20% better basketball and make it up that way. 

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