We don’t need no cowbells, dog collar, or pickle juice. Go Hawks
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A magical night in Cleveland.
Terrible tasting indeed!
Hawkeyes win, rest of America loses. I’m cool with it
Just another garbage commenter spreading my *sshole all over the internet.
This comment was (no rules) just right.
A win is a win and a great end to the season. On the positive side: Nick Easley. Two TD's and great way to go out. The Defense. Big goal line stand and big plays to create turnovers. Special teams. Miguel Recinos and ISM returns except for when he tried the flying Wallenda move. Nate's 3 TD's. All is well in Hawkeyeland tonight. Great to be a Hawkeye!
And I forgot. No penalties!!!
This simply cannot be overstated. Not committing any penalties most certainly helped us win this game.
As did the plethora of penalties committed by the other team...
That game was a defensive clinic, the offenses didn't do much. Great win for the Hawks
Your right on. That defensive line is gonna eat next year if Nixon can get eligible. Probably gave the staff the opportunity to move people around. Gonna be a lot of rock fights next year. Bring your favorite sling shot.
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What a day. I’m super happy for all the players and coaches for this one. Iowa did everything they needed to do today. They had zero penalties, didn’t let the turnovers sink them, created turnovers, Stanley made some throws, and the defense did their thing.
I crap on the coaching staff, especially for their offensive philosophy and offensive play calling. I’ll save my criticism for another day. Today we celebrate.
We celebrate coconut shrimp for all of America.
We can celebrate a coach that I think genuinely cares about his players, and doesn’t send them back in the game after being knocked unconscious.
Kirk to Nick: thanks for the $125k bonus, big guy.
no more yankey Chuck's wankey
I have abstained from criticism.... but this is 100% accurate
yeah, said in jest. happy for both of them, and IA fans.
Adam Robinson disagrees but I digress. Good win I’ll save worries for another day. Go Hawks
Chaney later admitted he was drunk and told officers “they wouldn’t last a [expletive] minute in Kinnick Stadium,”
I seriously wish Kirk Ferentz and EVERYONE would get out of his ass about this being a run team. The defense was downright nasty this year and is consistently good. The passing offense is erratic, but is so-so for a Midwestern, ground-and-pound team. But this run game is just unacceptable. It's not the running backs. No one would say it's the linemen. It is the scheme. It doesn't work. At all. It needs to change.
It works when you have a transcendent talent running the football, but there are nowhere near enough of those to go around for Iowa to have one every year.
Yeah, I think that this is mostly right.
Wisconsin is, of course, pretty much in the same boat as Iowa. But they've got a far more consistently successful run game than Iowa. Wisconsin ran the ball well in every game this year, including against Michigan (the best defense UW played).
QED: If Wisconsin can run the ball, then Iowa can too. And they should figure out what it takes to make that happen again.
Young had a opportunity to break off a huge run if he would have cut to the outside on one run, but decided to run straight into the back of his OLinemen. Young, Sargent, and IKM are serviceable backs, but we need upgrades at that position, hopefully Goodson will be that.
Oh my god I about had the big one on that play. He ran straight up the gut with the entire left third of the field vacated. He could have done ISM flying walendas into the endzone if he cuts left.
I sometimes think our running plays are too difficult for college offensive linemen to execute. The zone blocking scheme requires very precise coordination between offensive linemen and collegiate linemen might not have had enough practice time with one another, and general experience, to operate it consistently. Lots of pro teams have success with zone running so it's not like it just flat out can't work. I am not convinced that it's as simple as teams just stacking the box against us. For one thing, when our running game fails, it's usually the other team's defensive linemen that are blowing it up and not the extra safety or whatever it is. Also, it's pretty common for defenses (throughout college football) to have eight men in the box either on first down or in short yardage situations. Other teams run effectively against it and we don't. Also, since we always see eight man boxes, week in and week out, I would expect us to never be able to run the ball, if the loaded box was the reason for our struggles . However, some weeks, we can run the ball, other weeks, we can't - and the difference usually has to do with the quality of the other team's defensive line and linebackers. All of this leads me to think that it isn't really the predictability of our running plays that's the problem - rather that we just aren't very good at running the ball.
We consistently put linemen in the NFL so it's not like our linemen just flat out stink. At minimum, Jackson and Wirfs will play in the NFL. We don't typically put RBs in the NFL so that could also be the culprit but I think this team's RBs (especially Young) are solid college backs and Wadley was not the problem with the running game when he was here, obviously. So yeah, that means something else has to explain it and the scheme difficulty is all I can come up with. It's still a theory out of my @$$ though and I don't know football all that well. I have a hard time coming up with another theory that explains everything, though.
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Here, have some of these smelling salts.
Don't forget that they had two NFL caliber linemen playing against our run game. And our predictability running the ball on first down early helped us get the 75 yard TD from Stanley to Easley. The corner bit hard on run and Easley cruised in with a perfect pass from Stanley. Sometimes it all works out.
Oh I wasn't just talking about today, more of a general issue going back several years. Nobody is going to run on that MSU defense.
And you're absolutely right that the run set up that PA pass.
I see and understand that. What do you think about the impact of rotating three running backs into a game. Especially against teams that are adept at stopping the run. Seems like our RB's are at a disadvantage in not getting enough carries, seeing the defense react and building some momentum from being actively involved in the game.
MSU had 4 NFL-caliber linemen. 2 are expected to be R1 picks.
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I think that much of the issue is tendency. Right now, opposing teams line up to stop the run, they have all year, and honestly, have for years. As such, we don't need to run to set up the pass (or play action), because the previous runs have already set it up. The play action that set up Easley would have been there on the 1st play of the game. In order to free up the run, I believe we need to break tendency, not all the time, but enough that it's not obvious what's coming.
Well thought out criticism without snark. It's a brain scratcher at times, because we know this staff is constantly practicing the running game with the offense, and at very worst, want 50/50 balance between running and passing. I'm not as concerned with yesterday's running output (the OL just can't handle MSU's DL, true for most teams), but how many straight years of running mediocrity? When did Shonn Greene graduate? A long, long time ago.
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We had a couple of decent years running the ball in 2015 and 2016. In 2015 we had an excellent three-headed running back rotation. In 2016, we almost had two 1,000 yard backs. But, it certainly feels like we are overdue for either an elite-level running back or an elite-level run-blocking offensive line.
It could still work some, if we are not as predictable.
Feels like most of us can tell, with decent accuracy, when Iowa will run right or left. Which means opposing defensive coaches and players probably can.
Our RBs have enough talent.
This makes me feel like the OLs and the play-calling need improvement. Soon. Maybe not a full burn-down to re-build, but we need to add some wrinkles. At the same time, I don't want to turn into what much of college ball is turning into (hold, hold, hold).
I think Stanley has a bit more mobility than we've seen lately. Might need to use some of it, next year.
I never wanted to Fire Ferentz. Good bye and good luck, Gary.
Agree. Would be nice to have Stanley run more and at least have the defense thinking that option exists. He made a great 3rd down play with his legs when it really counted today.
Maybe don't be afraid to go imbalanced O line or bring in extra OLs and grade the road.
It will be interesting to see who plays center next year.
We should have these guys coming back: Wirfs, A Jackson, Banwart, two Paulsens, Kallenberger.
Here are the possible reserves: Newborg, Linderbaum, Ince, Schulte, Plumb, Jenkins, Winters, Kirkpatrick, Sorensen, Schott, Fagan, Empen, Sadler,
I heard that they were considering moving Linderbaum to center. Maybe to create an Epenesa on the offensive line. It might have been a different year for the run game if we had James Daniels anchoring the line.
Definitely right on James Daniels
Or, you know, not at all. Iowa has had good offensive lines, and we've had great offensive lines. We've had Outland Trophy winners playing, and we've had merely servicable players playing. And everything in between. And yet, year in and year out, regardless of the personnel on the line or in the backfield, Iowa has not been a dominant or even above-average running team. The only time in the last decade-plus that Iowa has finished in the top half of the conference (not the country, just the B1G) in rushing was in 2008 behind the best RB of the KF era and probably his 2nd best offensive line. If it takes that much talent just to get to "good" in the rushing game, then something is fundamentally wrong with the philosophy.
Or, it's a perfectly cromulent system that would embiggen the team if it was executed properly.
Ah, you're right.
Let's fire the Ferentzes and hire somebody who knows running. Like Joe Moorhead.
Agree. Small adjustments can make a big difference if they make the defense think and react just half a step slower.
Exactly! We need to restrain opposing defenses by keeping them guessing more frequently. Big plays usually come from a defense reading a particular play while executing another. Counters, traps, draws, screens, etc. were developed and implemented for this specific reason. Most seasons, we simply do not have the talent or level of execution to telegraph plays and still have success in the run game.
That 75-yd play-action TD on 1st Down (no less) against a team that hadn't given up an offensive TD in 10+ quarters gives me hope that play calling may be turning the corner into less predictability. Just one play, but mighty huge. It turned the tide for this game.
Man, I really, really hope so. But we've also had about two dozen such instances in the past season-and-a-half with BF. And everytime, it's just a fleeting mirage. Someone in one of the threads put it best (which I'm paraphrasing here): the issue isn't that BF is always terrible, or even not good enough; the issue is that for every transcendent play/series/game/whatever he calls, it's matched immediately by a play/series/game(s) where he is mind-numbingly bad, predictable, and unimaginative in his play calling. He's maddeningly inconsistent, or consistently erratic, however you want to look at it.
Oh, you didn't know? He has his own playbook and one of Greg Davis's old play books, and he flips a coin before each series to decide which one to use.
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The same concept applies to plays targeting key performers. How do we not pass to Fant and Hockenson taking advantage of their pass catching and ability to provide yards after the catch? One week we do it well and succeed, other weeks (e.g vs jNW, 3 quarters of the Outback Bowl) we can't buy a play involving our skill players. Mind numbing is right.
Let's not make things too much off of one play. That took the mistake of one player. And that was more than 1/3 of Iowa's offense.
This was an idealized Kirk Ferentz game. Keep things simple and as close to mistake free as possible, and let the other team make mistakes. Mississippi State made three terrible mistakes and that was clearly the difference in the game.
This is how Ferentz wants to win games. He does't want trick plays or fancy offensive offense or whatever. Just do your job slog through, and let others falter. If they are better than you to make up for the falters,or they don't make a lot of mistakes or Iowa makes the same number of mistakes, Iowa loses.
Idk if everyone reads both sites so I'll copy and paste -
A lot them blur together a bit from uh, refreshments, but that was the most entertaining bowl game I recall since we beat Saban in the 2005 Warren Holloway© Capitol One Bowl presented by Gary Dolphin’s cardiologist.
First quarter was ugly but the rest of the game excellent – lineman interceptions, the rare airborne 360 fumble, and even some Iowa swag sightings thanks to Smith-Marsette.
Gotta be happy for Brandon Smith, how cool to play your instate team with all the family connections, especially when you win. He’s always got that.
We bitch and moan a lot around here but this is a solid reason to just enjoy and appreciate Kirk once in awhile. He brought a disciplined team into that game and they beat a superior opponent. We’re a spoiled enough fan base that people are griping about the kind of season that fans over in Ames are celebrating. We can argue the merits later on Iowa football writ large, I’m going to enjoy this one. That was fun.
Really appreciate Brando Smith's play. Developing into a great possession receiver and he proved it again today against the team that didn't offer him until he had one from Iowa.
He's still a bit spotty, but he can keep getting better (and I think he will, we'll need him to if we lose BOTH TEs).
I bet he's happy to get a win over a team from his home state!
I’m a huge B. Smith proponent. He has the size and freakish physical gifts. It’s another instance of can Iowa’s coaches put him in a position to utilize his talents and excel?
Agreed, kind of crazy that a guy who is so athletically gifted has said he needs to work on confidence. We're lucky he fell to Iowa out of SEC country and if he can develop that over the next two years look out. He's a potential Clinton Solomon 2.0 and boy was it fun having a WR like that on the team.
Clinton Solomon is a great comparison; however, I believe Brandon Smith has a much higher ceiling. I think he's more of a Tevaun Smith/DJK skillset in a Marvin McNutt type body.
Definitely, good call. If he can keep progressing I think he can match what you're thinking. Let's hope that WR room can keep building.
Excellent comparison, never thought about his abilities in those terms...scary to think of what he could be capable of!
He is a really solid blocker too. If he improves his routes and positioning again in the off season he will be tough to handle.
I noticed his blocking all season, but especially in the bowl game. He was incredible blocking yesterday.
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With all the attention given to the TEs, WR play has been a bit overlooked this season. They've been pretty clutch when called upon with very few dropped balls to my memory. They should only be better by next season.
I also think a lot of that criticism is because so many of the long-ball throws were so poorly overthrown TO the WRs that it turned into a situation where we almost assumed the WRs didn't know how to run the routes, rather than Stanley legitimately overthrowing the ball. I think this game proved that both the WRs and Stanley can properly connect and I hope that continues through to the 2019 season.
Dropping the numbers in favor of fun
Smith has really improved this year. If he can make the same strides next year, look out. He's become a tough WR in a short time.
Here are some fun stats:
(disclaimer: the data only goes back to 2000 unfortunately so this does not reflect the history of college football but is still fun)
-This is the 10th game under Ferentz where Iowa has accumulated less than 200 yards total offense. Ferentz is currently 4-6 in these games. Quick comparisons: Minnesota is 0-16; Wisconsin is 1-3; Nebraska is 1-6; Iowa State is 1-9.
-Iowa, Florida State, Ohio State, Pitt, and TCU lead the nation with 4 such wins. These 5 teams hold 16.7% of college football's total wins in this category. (20/120)
-Iowa becomes the 44th team to win a game with less than 200 yards total offense while surrenduring more than 300 yards.
-Iowa becomes the 5th team to win a game with -15 rushing yards or fewer. Teams are currently 5-73 in that category. (Iowa was previously 0-2)
-And the most Kirk Ferentz thing to ever Kirk Ferentz:
Iowa becomes the first team to win a game while rushing for negative yards and totaling less than 200 yards offensively. Teams were previously 0-37.
Say what you want about the Kirk Ferentz tenure at Iowa but the man knows how to win the most absurd games.
The 0 penalties is also a nice stat. That's discipline on display especially when you give up two turnovers that result in touchdowns.
Second time this year. The Maryland game was also penalty-free. Which is also absurd because Iowa also had 2 games this season with 10+ penalties (UNI and Indiana) which is the first time that's happened since 2004.
And don't forget 2009 when he coached a team that blocked two FG tries to end / win the game vs. UNI. That had to be a first. Nothing surprises me about Iowa football.
Everything and nothing surprises me about Iowa.
Excellent stats, thanks for this.
I just hope we never have to endure the degraded audio quality of a football game due to fucking cowbells ever again.
Happy we won, I think it surprised just about everyone today. This team may have had some struggles and some issues on the tougher games of the season, but winning against Mississippi State will make me continue to love watching Iowa Football, even if my heart skips a few beats every once in a while.
Was that it, the cowbells? It didn't sound like that to me (although I could hear cowbells).
I honestly thought that ESPN was using canned crowd noise to make the game seem like it wasn't being played in an empty stadium.
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I'm rewatching...it's definitely the cowbells, it has the sound of static, and it's terrible.
Anyone have the link to Easley’s post game interview? The full version.
JR Koch was a monster
Nick: alright who’s cutting (bloomin’) onions?
Let's see, B1G East, 1-3. B1G West 4-1. Hmmm. Next season will be murder in the west.
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also, east-west head-to-head was .500 (7-7) with the east having two more home games.
The East faced better opponents. Wasn’t close IMO.
that 75 yard TD catch was Easley the longest play Miss St gave up all season.
and was Stanley's longest touchdown pass of the year...
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That concussion shit still really bothers me. That RB was really messed up after that play, I honestly thought there was a small chance we just saw someone die on live TV. Was glad to hear he was doing ok (even after losing consciousness), but then he's BACK IN THE FUCKING GAME?? Absolutely terrible jobs by the MSU coaching and training staff
I saw that too and about lost my mind. The guy passed out and you're telling me he's okay to play in that rock fight. If I was that kid's parents, there is no way he plays for that team again.
Agreed. I can't believe the medical staff cleared him. The announcers said his eyes rolled back and he completely passed out. Even if it ended up being dehydration and not a concussion, you don't risk somebody's health like that. I know he wants to get out there, but a 20 year old can't make that decision.
no player should ever be put in the position to determine if they are clear minded enough to play. in any game
Defense was great, offense was the usual meh. I’ll take it. Also, Iowa needs to find a better way to get their best playmakers involved in the game earlier and often. They really should just name a position something like “This guy is is the best player on the team, but we’re not giving the ball to him today”. I know our TE’s got a lot of praise and awards this year, but damn. I have no idea why they’re not getting the ball to them. Hockenson was very underutilized. And when he did get the call, holy shit, look out. I really hope they work on that this offseason (they won’t).
That rant aside, this was a really fun game to watch, and I’m glad the good guys came out on top.
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Hock was literally double teamed the entire game. it’s not like he was under-utilized throughout the season.
Ok. That’s fair. I suppose that’s why a lot of the WR’s were open. I stand corrected. I was also alluding to Fant in the jNW game, but that’s already been hashed out (not necessarily Hockenson’s season long usage). I honestly didn’t pay close enough attention to Hockenson’s coverage this game, which would explain a lot. Thanks.
Hockenson was triple-teamed on Easley’s 75-yard touchdown catch. Sometimes you have to throw to who is open.
If you told me Stanley would go 21/31 for 214, 3 TDS and 1 INT, I would have thought Iowa would have won by 14. Also, I would have thought they there was no fucking way he could put up that line against a defense THAT ALLOWED FIVE THROWING TDS ALL YEAR!
Iowa football makes literally no sense. You have to embrace it because you can’t analyze it. Next year Iowa will probably do something ridiculous like ending up going 11-1 after losing two of the best TEs in the nation and the B10 d-back of the year. The one loss will be at home in a blowout to Illinois, and they’ll win the Big 10 title in a game in which Stanley is sacked five times and throws two pick-6s but Goodson runs for 220 yards. Then they’ll lose thei Rose Bowl 8-7 while playing in the eye of a rare West Coast hurricane.
You can sign me up for that scenario
Kirk Ferentz: "The biggest thing I have is the length. It’s going to be boring as can be."
It's so crazy that it just might happen...after all this is Iowa football.
Nah, we'll go 8-4. Because if there is one thing that you can count on, it is a 7-5/8-4 season.
I honestly think the reason Hockenson was underutilized was because Fant didn't play in the game. When we've faced most other opponents this season, they knew to wrap up Fant and that left Hockenson available for passes, with no Fant, you have no primary coverage person OTHER than Hockenson. The few passes that he got were great catches and he did amazing things after the catch and after first contact, but you can't really do much about double or triple coverage on our leading player in receiving yards.
If Iowa doesn’t come up with a real punter next year I am going to tear my eyes out. That is all.
I kind of liked that Rastetter is so bad, Iowa was doing creative and different things on 4th down to compensate. Early in the year, I totally forgot how bad he was be cause I was enjoying all the weirdness that KF came up with since he couldn't punt well. 4th down was fun for the first few games. They should have stayed with the weirdness all season.
Mississippi State was almost KF's dream team. An amazing defense, a super-pro punter, a terrible passing game... But KF would hate that super fast QB getting all the rushing yards.
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I used to love the SNL "I need more cowbell" skit with Will Ferrel and Christopher Walken; however, today's game completely ruined it for me!
I LOVED the ESPN guys and how they couldn’t get anything correct about Iowa from Matt Nelson being no. 96 then showing him standing chest toward camera in the ole 98 jersey to calling IKM Sargent for a whole series and saying KF was in his 19th season as the infograph showed 20th year and there was a few more that I can’t remember off the top of my head. Great to get comical relief *insert eye roll*
also the cowbells- I thought they were suppose to stop using them when the ball was under center not continue using them until MSU had the ball back. Would have liked to seen something done about it but that’s just nitpicking at this point.
One last thing and it’s the most important of anything I can say, GO HAWKS!
Let’s score some Homeruns!
they should be forced to watch each of their broadcasts with a fact checker. it is easier to watch when you know ESPN = SEC Network...
A couple of my favorites:
"Simmons [MSU defender] sets the tone on the first play of the game."
(It was the fifth play of the game, since it came after an apparently non-tone-setting three and out pitched by the Hawkeye defense. It was a good play by Simmons, but Iowa losing yards running up the middle on first down is not exactly a BREAKING NEWS moment.)
"Moorhead looking for his first win as the Bulldogs coach."
(Obviously they meant first bowl win, but it was his first season there, so OF COURSE he's looking for his first bowl win, and they deserve ridicule for compounding their dumb, meaningless "analysis" with a LOLworthy flub.)
As far as the rushing woes, I think MSU lined up with the best defense in the nation and ran the same game plan as most other teams; stuff the run and make Iowa beat you throwing the ball. They were so good they even had the ability to shut down our biggest receiving threat at the same time. It really should have worked too. We only had 199 yards and -15 rushing. Today was the first time though, since 2015, that the QB and wide receivers group have both been good enough to make a team pay for stuffing the run and they came up with one huge play action pass, cashed in on two short fields after big defensive plays, and twice strung together enough plays to get to field goal range. Hopefully this is a harbinger that the fallout from Greg Davis/Bobby Kennedy reshaping the receiver corp has passed and surely >95% of the defenses we face will be worse than the 2018 MSU one. Next year should be another really good chance at 10+ wins. Hopefully the close game/big game woes of this year will pay off.
yesterday's rushing game was atrocious. But the problems with Iowa's rushing attack go far, far beyond one game and one opponent (who is truly superlative on defense).
That goal line stand was a thing of beauty.
The Hawkeyes are 2-0 in bowl games when I wear my Go Iowa Awesome t-shirt. Coincidence, I think not.
Rumor has it that Dolph has been wearing his GIA t-shirt underneath his shirts/sweaters during the hoopyball games...
I strongly prefer winning over losing.
Happy for the win. That's what mattered.
God, yes. I really, really hope this is a springboard to something better next season. But, I wrote that exact same sentence after the BC win last year, and well . . .
With the schedule being what it is, the team could be better and the record worse.
I'm not so sure that we wouldn't beat them (MSU) more often than not if we played them a bunch of times. What I saw in MSU was an undisciplined (although talented) team that got hit in the mouth and backed off... then we gave them a couple turnovers and they got up again, but we hit them in the mouth again and then they didn't know how to respond.
Awesome win! GO HAWKS!
One more observation: I also think we could've won this game more comfortably than what we did -- we should've picked off Fitzgerald at least 2 more times than what we did...additionally there was that horrible INT by Stanley in addition to ISM's kickoff fumble gave them two very short field that they converted to TDs. Plus MSU's horrible penalty problems -- holy crap! Tip of the cap to them, their defense was good, but Stanley and Co. were just enough better!
Very happy for the win. Iowa being a disciplined team really paid off in that game. A very KF win, if there ever was one.
I’m super happy for all the players and coaches for this one. Iowa did everything they needed to do today. They had zero penalties, didn’t let the turnovers sink them, created turnovers, Stanley made some throws, and the defense did their thing.
On the positive side: Nick Easley. Two TD's and great way to go out. The Defense. Big goal line stand and big plays to create turnovers.