Sooner or Later: The One That Got Away Shall Return

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DC_HAWK's picture

The linked story in the "phone call" text isn't accurate, as I remember it.  In addition to the story quoting from none other than Jim Mondanaro, a notorious Iowa City area asshole, the story I recall was that Stoops was so miffed that he was not offered the job on the spot that he left and went directly to Oklahoma to accept.  Iowa wanted to finish its interview process, but he wouldn't have it.  That's grade-A smug, and I won't forget how that went down. I'm a hard "no" on Stoops and his southern-bro visor.

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HoyaGoon's picture

It depends entirely on where, and from whom, you hear the story of Stoops' interview. Because a number of other versions directly contradict the tale you heard

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DC_HAWK's picture

From donors.

I haven't heard any other version that "directly contradicts" that, either.  If they did, that would mean he was offered the job on the spot but refused to accept it.  That makes him look like more of an a-hole.

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Tad Ghostal's picture

You heard correct.  I am close friends with a member of the interview committee.  He wanted to be offered the job immediately after the interview or was going to take the Oklahoma job.  Bowlsby was committed to interviewing Ferentz and couldn't make the offer on Stoops' timeline.  Bowlsby acted the more professionally in this situation.  That being said, Stoops has matured quite a bit and would likely do things a bit differently if he could go back in time.

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HoyaGoon's picture

Interesting. I had heard from someone in the AD's office that Stoops came to the interview and told them he had already accepted the Oklahoma job and that he didn't want to be offered the Iowa job because he didn't want to be put in a place where he would have to turn down his alma mater.

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Dip-shit's picture

That's the story I heard as well. I once asked Bob the same question. He told me he'd already been offered and accepted the head coaching position at OU before he even interviewed for the same position at Iowa. He then went on to say as much as he wanted to coach his alma matter, he simply couldn't turn down the OU job. He took the interview out of respect for Iowa. I can tell your from personal experience, the ENTIRE Stoops family are huge, diehard Hawkeye fans!

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houksyndrome's picture

Is it possible that the offer from Oklahoma was time-sensitive?  In other words, they had offered him the position but made it clear that they wouldn't hold it open for him beyond a certain date (which coincided closely with his Iowa interview date).  Another possibility is that they made it very clear to him that they did not want him if they weren't his top choice - i.e. they didn't want the process to drag out if he was going to end up choosing Iowa.  In either of those scenarios, Stoops could have been left without any offers had he waited for Bowlsby to finish his hiring procedure.  That is, Oklahoma could have pulled their offer and Bowlsby could have hired Ferentz.  In that case, Stoops could end up without any offers at all.  

That may seem far-fetched, and there may be reports that contradict this possibility, but this exact thing has personally happened to me before in a job search.

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creeksider's picture

This is what I heard:  Oklahoma offered the job.  Stoops said he still had yet to interview with Iowa and wanted that chance.  The Oklahoma AD (Castiglione) said fine,  go ahead and interview, but the offer expires (fill in the date and time.)  Stoops interviewed with Iowa, Iowa didn't offer right away and the deadline loomed, so Bob took the bird in the hand.  Just what I heard.  I could be wrong.

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ck4's picture

That was how many years ago? Maybe he’s still salty, maybe he’s not. Won’t know until you ask him. But not asking is just spiteful.

You think our AD shouldn’t do what’s best for the program out of spite? I guess that does sound like something Barta would do.

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Hayden High Kick's picture

I also like to indulge in fantasy from time to time. 

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Vanilla Gorilla's picture

Celebrating horizontal football since 2011

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Diesel's picture

Barta will probably hire himself, barricade his tunnel, rack up another $6.5m lawsuit, then promptly receive a promotion.

RIP Isosceles

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WaterlooChazz's picture

Is this real?

I never wanted to Fire Ferentz. Good bye and good luck, Gary.

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nerdhawk's picture

Where's the Batshit Insanity tag?

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Fryser Soze's picture

Stoops My Ass.

If StoopsmyAss is back on board as writer, does that mean Bellanca also returns to enlighten us about flying Cessna's, 4-star steakhouses, and high-class misogyny?

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IAinCA's picture

Don't forget world-class internet E-Thuggery

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Hollywood Hawk Hogan's picture

I heart SMA and would enjoy his participation here. Bellanca can stay away tho.

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HoyaGoon's picture

Eh, anymore SMA is just Bellanca without the misogyny 

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Hawk Guy's picture

From what I remember, SMA was respectful and Bellanca was...Bellanca. Do they both still write for BHGP?

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chitownhawkeye's picture

Bellanca hasn't been seen for a while, he popped up on OTE.  I wouldn't be surprised if he was banned.

SMA basically said he had something going on and was too busy.

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Ricky D's Triple Double's picture

I rarely comment on the football stuff, but did the author forget to highlight and put all of this copy in sarcasm font? 

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Kirk Ferentz's Notecard's picture

"The one that got away"....lol more like "The one that couldn't wait 2 days". Everyone just assumes that Iowa would have been better off with Stoops but I am not so sure. People don't often consider negative outcomes when indulging in "what if" scenarios.

One wonders what everyone will turn their hatred to if KF and Barta get replaced and things get worse and not better.

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Hawk Guy's picture

You’re saying there could be something worse than Barta???

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chitownhawkeye's picture

I'm sure it's possible.  Just not likely.

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GetLoose's picture

Yes, but the list is rather short. Ian McCaw and Tim Curley immediately come to mind. Diety dammit, I've just defended GB...

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Hawk Guy's picture

I’m sorry, man. I unintentionally baited you into defending GB.

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Nile4Awhile's picture

then there's this indicator that shows it's not a complete dumpster fire...

Iowa is one of only six teams to have won an FBS bowl game and qualified for the men's and women's NCAA Tournament

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HoyaGoon's picture

It seems to me that a sizable portion of the fanbase considers only negative outcomes whenever a coaching change discussion is had

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HoustonHawkeye's picture

Especially if the change is outside the Ferentz family.

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rockyh's picture

Where was this hot take a month ago when we had those -20° wind chills?  I could have saved some money on my heating bill.

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stargate125645's picture

I find referring to your own work as "this article" amusing for some reason.

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Nile4Awhile's picture

it seems some of the jokesters from the wide right or corn nation have taken a GIA spot as a writer. 

the Kirk's gotta go, Gary's gotta go crowds just don't seem to give up. yup, i get it, we didn't win the national college football championship last year, but neither did anyone else not named Clemson. 

and as far as the state of Iowa sports, have you looked around lately? the ballers are both in respective dances, baseball, gymnastics, swimming, field hockey, wrestling. track and field, and other notable sports are respectively competitive and contending.

that shit does't just happen, someone's driving the bus and seems to be on a pretty good path right now. 

you are starting to sound like someone who would bitch that the ice cream is too cold. why don't you try eating and enjoying it and shut the hell up?

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HoyaGoon's picture

Hmm, defending Gary Barta's track record?

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Tad Ghostal's picture

At the completion of the fall 2018 semester, Iowa ranked 12th out of 14 Big Ten teams in the D1 Learfield Directors' Cup Standings:  https://nacda.com/documents/2019/1/9//JAN10Overall.pdf?id=3486

Are you satisfied just being ahead of Nebraska and Rutgers on this list?  Or with being ranked 63rd out of all 153 D1 teams in the ranking?

[EDIT] FYI - Iowa State is 36th overall on this list.  We need far more than a good fundraiser leading the athletic department.

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houksyndrome's picture

Iowa State being dramatically ahead of us on that list really drives the point home.  If our problem is that we are in a small population state, then how does ISU finish so far ahead of us in that metric?

Side note, how many athletic programs does ISU have?  I remember them cutting several programs (like baseball) a while back and I wonder if that could artificially alter their placement in the standings, depending on how the standings are calculated.

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Nile4Awhile's picture

men's baseball, swimming, gymnastics along with women's field hockey and crew are among the varsity sports NOT available at Iowa State University...

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Tmess89's picture

They are at the bottom of the conference in conference titles during the Gary Barta era. How is that being competitive? Your logic is confusing.

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HoustonHawkeye's picture

With the women's B1G Tourney Championship last weekend, by my count, Barta now has one more B1G championship (5 - the other 4 are wrestling) than legal settlements (4 during his "leadership"). 

So Nile, I guess he has a "winning" record now - after 12 years as "AD"?

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Nile4Awhile's picture

ok, i'm admittedly wrong. I didn't do detailed research about the Barta current records/state of program, only used "news" articles about how each of the teams are doing. Most of those articles are happy, we're doing great pieces.

I briefly knew Bob and brothers in school. a lot of water under the bridge since then, this just doesn't sound like something he would do. Much like politics, the division between the "fire everyone and burn the place down" and the "he's ours for life" crowd is pretty strong. I'm all for making things better, but making change to make change without a good plan goes bad quickly. see Nebraska/Illinois/Purdue football, Illinois basketball, etc, etc.  

It doesn't help to try to bring someone credible in if we take irrational actions to correct/improve a coaching or AD situation. Make sure the next step you take doesn't take you to a worse place or kill you...

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Chuck Longs Mom's picture

So what you're saying is stoops for 5 years, while Junior goes off to head coaching Maine. And then after stoops retires, Juniors swoops in. I can live with that.

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HoyaGoon's picture

I'd be ok if Brian went off to coach Oklahoma then came back, too

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Hollywood Hawk Hogan's picture

Whether he succeeds or falls flat on his face, I would enjoy it. Stoops' tenure as head coach was the ONLY thing keeping OU off of my college football enemies list.

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ncthawk's picture

Stoops isn't coming to Iowa. If you want to indulge in the fantasy that's fine, but it's not happening. However,.....what are the odds of Bielema coming home? If for no other reason than to make the entire state of Wisconsins head explode.

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Wisconsin fans hated Bielema, they would more likely laugh. Stoops is probably more likely than Bielema at this point. 

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IowaPharmer's picture

The first part is true. The second part...Barta is still in charge, so...

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ncthawk's picture

It's the great irony of Wisconsin fans. They did hate him even though he won three straight Big Ten championships. Since he left they haven't won any.

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houksyndrome's picture

The million dollar question is whether or not Stoops would be able to recruit the same caliber of skill position players to Iowa that he was able to attract to Oklahoma.  If not, would his schemes be effective?  I am very skeptical that Stoops would have had the same degree of success at Iowa that he had at Oklahoma.

The idea of Stoops coming to Iowa isn't as crazy as it sounds at first.  He'd still be young enough to coach.  It's his alma mater.  The program would presumably already be in somewhat decent shape.  He wouldn't have the constant national championship or bust expectations that come with coaching at Oklahoma.  Our expectation is to be where Wisconsin is, not Alabama.  We'd be able to pay him pretty well.  It really comes down to whether he even still wants to coach and how much fire he still has left.  It's a very hard job and one cannot succeed in it if they aren't 100% committed to it.

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WaterlooChazz's picture

I won't lie.  If Iowa were to land Bob Stoops, they might need to pay him more than they are KF.

Then, I'd really like him to take Iowa to near where Alabama is.  

I definitely want him to keep Iowa ahead of Iowa State.

I never wanted to Fire Ferentz. Good bye and good luck, Gary.

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HoustonHawkeye's picture

Near where Alabama is?

You forgot to use the sarcasm font, Chazz.

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WaterlooChazz's picture

No, man.  If they were to land Stoops, and pay him $6 or 7 million per year (or more, gulp), 

I'd want him to have Iowa football nationally prominent within 3 or 4 years.  Like, B10 title and a big-time bowl or two.

But, yeah, I guess that's a "bad" year for Bama these days.  

I never wanted to Fire Ferentz. Good bye and good luck, Gary.

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Ricky D's Triple Double's picture

I like GIA as a community: relatively civil convos compared to the rest of the blogosphere, some intelligent takes, and decent writing. With that being said, some of the posts on this article look like what's going on in the Nebraska blogs with Hoiberg. The difference being that Nebby might actually get Hoiberg. 

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HoustonHawkeye's picture

Stoops to Iowa is practically a done deal compared to Hoiberg go to Nebby.

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Hollywood Hawk Hogan's picture

From the linked article on the Joe Mixon story:

OU had the power to make Mixon start getting past his punch of Mia Molitor, and OU did not exorcise that power.

[facepalm] 

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HoyaGoon's picture

Not only that, they didn’t bother to consult a priest AT ALL!

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The Herky And Mary Chain's picture

Is this a distraction piece?  The game isn't even until Friday. 

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UtahHAWK's picture

If KF retires his replacement should not be BF, but Stoops is not the answer either...too old now. Bret Bielema??

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Garydolphinisarealdolphin's picture

Ugh...I dunno about Bialema

Aside from the "That's Football"-type frustrations KF has provided us with, KF has represented and advanced the interests and image of the University and football program pretty well, in my opinion - despite being a bit boring (which is often better than the opposite) he took what was already a pretty well respected program and turned it into something truly special with the Children's Hospital and Wave - and the even cooler thing is that it seemed to be out of sincerity (as opposed to purely PR).  I was already proud, but good heavens I am even prouder to wear the Tiger Hawk in my home outside of Iowa - "Hey - I saw that thing you guys do with waving to kids with cancer- that is really awesome!"  "Thanks!  Yeah, I know."

I am not suggesting that I think Bialema would kill the wave (which would be horrible and stupid), but there is just something about the guy that doesn't just exude asshole, but *slimy* asshole, with a propensity to take a lot of the shine off of the program's feel-good, (comparatively) squeaky-clean image, if not perhaps worse.  

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HoyaGoon's picture

How? Seriously? This is just smearing a guy for no reason, For all his faults, Biels teams have never even had the whiff of scandal around them. Which is not something that KF can say

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IowaPharmer's picture

I would agree. His teams were clean. I think Biels had some of his own issues in Madison, however (this is mostly rumor, admittedly). That said, he’s older, more experienced and settled down (like Stoops). He wouldn’t be the worst option, honestly.  At least he has experience.  

Understand that this is all simply an exorcise. I don’t honestly believe any of this will happen. 

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HoyaGoon's picture

I think that Biels' "issues" were that he was a handsomely paid, young(ish) single man living in Madison with a fair degree of local fame. And lived his life accordingly, the same way I or, let's be honest, almost any of us would do if we were in a similar situation.

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IowaPharmer's picture

I don’t disagree with any of this. I guess I’m just saying that he has some baggage (the same as everyone else, despite what we would all say on the interwebs).  You know how people can be these days, though. It’s easy to pretend that you’re high and mighty hiding behind a screen. 

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Garydolphinisarealdolphin's picture

My take was based only on the feeling I get from the guy, which I admit is as substantive as Stoops being hired in 2021.  My assertion may have been based an admittedly vague recollection of rumors from his time at Wisconsin and/or perhaps even the more established memory of him laughing in response to fooling us with the fake punt (which would obviously sting less if he became a successful coach for us).  He has just seemed like a bit of a dick to me, for whatever reason, and in the parlance of our times, dickish head coaches seem more likely to be involved in situations which metastasize into bad looks, which may not rise to the level of being full blown scandals.  I like the fact that KF doesn't do things which result in "Ugh, I really wish he wouldn't have done/said that"-type moments, as opposed to his counterpart coaching the MBB team.   

That being said, I certainly realize I may be misguided, and I honestly *want* to like Bert.  He's a Fry-era Hawkeye, after all.  If he has perhaps settled down a bit and/or my impressions aren't appropriate as to his actual character, etc., I would be more than happy to see him as our coach.

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I mean, KF's program put a dozen kids in the hospital and then he flippantly and arrogantly made a new coach award simply to give that award to the coach in charge of that "putting young men in the hospital" thing.

That's some Trumpian level bullshit.  But we dont' care because... why? Because he didn't "improperly" get boosters to give young, poor, boys of color money under the table and that's the real crime. 

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WaterlooChazz's picture

I never wanted to Fire Ferentz. Good bye and good luck, Gary.

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HoustonHawkeye's picture

Shit, that's almost as bad as spitting gum on officials while cursing them out on the sidelines...that move by Biels was shitty without a doubt but overall he's run cleaner programs than KF has...

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