TUESDAYS WITH BOREY: Illi-why?

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Ronnie's Bookie's picture

"We've largely moved past the days of AIRBHG"

No we haven't, oh evil one. Forgive us this trespass.

55-24.

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scratch where it itches's picture

"There’s something inherently sick about football in general."

For some fanbases more than others, amirite? 

Pig shit you say? Smells like $7 Billion to me.

Also, fire Gary Barta.

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WaterlooChazz's picture

The Ottoman Empire was the sick man of Europe.

Nebraska football must be the sick man of the B10.

And, I have to laugh about Penn State, too.  Waaaaahhhh dreadlocks.  Waaaaaaahhh kill our QB.  Waaaaaaah only 9-1.  They are some whiney sickos.

I never wanted to Fire Ferentz. Good bye and good luck, Gary.

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RetroHawk's picture

I like KF's explanation of the running back saga. "It was just Tyler's time to start". It would be good to hear Sargent or Young's perspective on the issue.  More Tuesday's with Borey please, as we just cannot get enough of these great tidbits.

Great job seniors....thanks for all you've done and for never letting Floyd out of our pen. Have a great day Saturday! 

RetroHawk

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metalnick's picture

The Cy-Hawk never left and the Heroes trophy also has a chance to remain.

It's pretty remarkable that this class has seen 3/4 of its rivarly trophies in the case their entire time at Iowa.

If you want a vision of the future, imagine Kirk Ferentz clapping and chewing gum in your face - forever.

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JRossman's picture

Aye, but it's the one that made an abbreviated appearance that stings.

Cussin' the Hawks since 1971!

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Sean Considine's Bromance's picture

He's often infuriating and stubborn, but Kirk is a fantastic sap when he wants to be.

I know I've mentioned this before, but seeing Kirk cry on camera is always emotional for me. Someone said it's like watching your grandpa cry. I remember it specifically when ESPN did the piece about the wave and the Ferentz's donation to the Children's Hospital and also when they did the piece on Brett Greenwood. Most people also remember Ferentz crying after the 6-4 game the week after his father passed and in the post game interview with Holly Rowe later that year after winning a share of the B1G title.

The Ferentz regime frustrates me to no end as a fan. But if I had a son that was being recruited by Iowa, especially if said son was someone like Devonte Young or Ryan Schmidt like Ferentz mentions above that didn't necessarily have NFL aspirations, I wouldn't blink. I know that he's going to play for someone that cares for him as a person, will hold him accountable for his mistakes, and teach him integrity. 

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chitownhawkeye's picture

We may criticize him as a coach, but not as a person.  

In a field where it's easy to drown humanity out by looking at the kids as nothing more than pieces, Kirk wears his emotions on his sleeves.  He truly cares about them. 

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Coromandel Hawk's picture

Absolutely.  That's why when Pat Forde does a hatchet job piece on him or some guy puts him in an article of most overpaid coaches Iowa fans all bristle and rush to his defense.  We all know he's a good guy who cares about his players.

Also, thanks for getting Will Lack in there!  He is also a very good person.  Or maybe Ferentz would say a swell guy.

BWR

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RetroHawk's picture

KF was one of those guys who was "paid a salary ahead of its time" which earned him much criticism from many in the media. But, we all know what he's (and Mary) done with some rather large chunks of it and we all know what it was like pre-Hayden Fry. It has obviously kept him here and as much as we like to complain about his football strategy, at the least we're not Nebraska. 

RetroHawk

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Pepper Brooks's picture

or Illinois, or Purdue, or Indiana, or Northwestern, or Minnesota, etc...

Punting is a bold strategy, let's see if it pays off for them.

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Sean Considine's Bromance's picture

I would have subbed Maryland and Rutgers for Purdue and Minnesoooota in that list.

Purdue is doing a lot right now considering they're playing without one of the most exciting offensive players in the conference and they're into, I believe, their fourth string QB right now. Brohm needs a defense, but his team is going to create significant matchup issues with Sindelar, Bell and a healthy Rondale Moore. As much as we like to make fun of Minnesota, the year-over-year improvement under Fleck is evident. It's clearly tied to him and the Gophers just signed him to an seven-year extension. 

I'd still rather have what we have. But absent that, I think the optimism brewing in Minneapolis and West Lafayette would be far preferable to what Illinois, Indiana, jNWU, Rutgers, or Maryland are dealing with.

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Pepper Brooks's picture

my list was certainly not comprehensive. One glaring omission was Iowa State. 

I was thinking about the entire 20 year tenure of KF.  I would imagine anyone of those teams would happily trade the last 20 years for what Iowa has done in that time.

Punting is a bold strategy, let's see if it pays off for them.

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Sean Considine's Bromance's picture

I completely agree. Moreover, if we're comparing B1G programs over Ferentz's tenure I think the only ones I WOULD be willing to swap with are Wisconsin and #THE.

Michigan's last 20 years haven't been significantly different than Iowa's and included some significant losses to the Hawkeyes. Penn State and Michigan State have seen higher highs in that time, but also have dealt with some pretty significant scandal. Plus, Sparty has to look itself in the mirror knowing they have employed Nick Saban and Mark Dantonio. On the plus side, John L Smith was fucking hilarious, although I'd probably cringe pretty hard if my team's head coach was slapping himself during press conferences.

I'm not saying Iowa is the third-best team over the last 20 years. I'm just saying that, on balance, I'd rather be us than nearly anyone else.

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Game Bibs And Turkey Legs's picture

Many years ago I had a dream that I was tailgating (early 00’s style so you know it was good) and Kirk came and I was very very drunk and made a fool of myself and he was disappointed in me. I woke up in a panic and to this day still feel shame for disappointing dream Kirk. 
I just respect him as a person so much I was shook as they say even over something not real 

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IowaPharmer's picture

This is awesome. I know exactly the kind of dream you mean. 

"I know what I'm suggesting." -therealCatnuts

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John Dumb Blog's picture

Would to see Schimdt get a snap.

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nerdhawk's picture

Q. I was interviewing Brady Ross today, and I referred to him as a Kirk Ferentz type player and he quickly said that is the ultimate compliment.
KIRK FERENTZ: He runs with linebackers a lot, so he might be a little delusional.

Q. But just the way he said it he got kind of emotional, but you always talk about the relationships. Is that one of the best parts about coaching?
KIRK FERENTZ: It’s the best part about coaching. It always has been. The worst part about being a head coach is it’s hard to be as intimate with all your players as you were as a position coach. Just the nature of what we do unfortunately or what head coaches have to do. It’s a bigger classroom. But yeah, the fun of coaching has always been the people you work with on a daily basis. It’s a lot of fun to celebrate, believe me. That’s the best part of it.

But as sick as this may sound, there’s something about those lows, too. The highs and lows are just — they’re hard to compare to anything else you experience in life. Something you go through at those times with people, the people you care about and the people that have worked really hard and invested, yeah, there’s a real special bond that forms. I think that’s what sports are all about. That’s the best part with sports from my standpoint.

Obviously I'm biased but I imagine most coaches say something like this on senior day, but I think Kirk really believes it.  I'd go so far as to say that I think he sees this as his real job, moreso than whatever actual football coaching he does.  Take in a bunch of 18 year-old boys, say good-bye to a bunch of 22 year-old men.  If some football games get won along the way well, you know, that's great for the guys but it's not really what's important.  (I do think he cares a lot about getting guys into the NFL.)

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tyger1147's picture

Agree with Kirk on this. i'm applying for new jobs (one in Brussels! whoohoo!), and one of the things I keep mentioning is how I value my job as a mentor, to my students on my caseload, to my homeroom studens I've had for 4 years now, and especially to my rugby players, as important as anything else.

meh

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Sleepy's picture

...they sound less like the '19 Illini and more like the '86 Bears at the moment.

The '86 Bears lost a Divisional Playoff game to a team quarterbacked by Jay Schroeder.  I'm fairly certain my then-seven-year old brother cried.

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WaterlooChazz's picture

"We can’t survive solely on Iowa players. I wish we could."

"Our wide receivers can't pancake-block a guy on every play.  I wish they could."

"You can't punt on every possession.  I wish we could."

"You're not supposed to have all your sons and sons-in-law on your coaching staff at one time.  I wish I could."

"You can't run off tackle on every play.  I wish we could."

"You can't have a new coach at Nebraska every three or four years.  I wish we could."

"You can't win every game by a score of 6 to 4.  I wish we could."

I never wanted to Fire Ferentz. Good bye and good luck, Gary.

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JRossman's picture

Bravo, loved the punt line!

Cussin' the Hawks since 1971!

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HoustonHawkeye's picture

"Our wide receivers can't pancake-block a guy on every play.  I wish they could."

That's the most Ferentzian thing on the list - well done, Mr. Chazz!

I strongly prefer winning over losing.

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