POLL PATROL: Iowa At #18 in AP/Coaches Polls

By RossWB on November 4, 2019 at 3:53 pm
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After a week with so many teams on bye (especially near the top of the polls), it's hardly surprising that there was very little movement in the Top 25 polls this week. But that just means that things are set up for some major games in November, starting this week, which features three ranked vs ranked matchups, headlined by #1 LSU vs #2 Alabama (or #1 Alabama vs #2 LSU, depending on your poll of choice). That and more in the Top 25s below... 

THE WEEK 11 AP POLL

RANK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 LSU (17) 8-0 1479
2 Alabama (21) 8-0 1472
3 Ohio State (17) 8-0 1467
4 Clemson (7) 9-0 1406
5 Penn State 8-0 1306
6 Georgia 7-1 1196
7 Oregon 8-1 1180
8 Utah 8-1 1090
9 Oklahoma 7-1 1045
10 Florida 7-2 938
11 Baylor 8-0 909
12 Auburn 7-2 901
13 Minnesota 8-0 831
14 Michigan 7-2 780
15 Notre Dame 6-2 571
16 Wisconsin 6-2 558
17 Cincinnati 7-1 527
18 Iowa 6-2 491
19 Memphis 8-1 448
20 Kansas State 6-2 364
21 Boise State 7-1 310
22 Wake Forest 7-1 296
23 SMU 8-1 250
24 San Diego State 7-1 87
25 Navy 7-1 83

As noted, not much movement in the Top 25 overall or at the top of the rankings. The top 5 remained unchanged and the big shift Georgia moving up from #8 to #6 and Florida moving down from #6 to #10 after the results of the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party game on Saturday. Oregon, Utah, and Oklahoma round out the Top 10.

Did you know that the SEC has the highest-ranked undefeated team in the AP Poll (LSU)? And the highest-ranked 1-loss team in the AP Poll (Georgia)? And the highest-ranked 2-loss team in the AP Poll (Florida)? And if you extended the rankings into the Others Receiving Votes category, they'd have the highest-ranked 3-loss team as well (Texas A&M)? Just an observation. 

Baylor has crept up to #11, just outside the Top 10, while the only other undefeated team in FBS is Minnesota, hanging back at #13, behind two 2-loss teams and four 1-loss squads. Now there's no question that Minnesota's schedule has been exceedingly soft so far this year and we'll know much more about them after this week's showdown with #5 Penn State. But at the same point in the season in 2015, Iowa was ranked #9 (and there were still 11 undefeated teams left at that point in 2015; Iowa wasn't the lowest-ranked among them, nor even the lowest-ranked P5 undefeated, as Oklahoma State was 8-0 and ranked #14 at that point). (At a similar point in the season the 2009 Iowa team was ranked #4, although that team had a road win over #5 Penn State on its resume, which was far better than anything on Minnesota's present resume.) We don't need to start liking Minnesota (eww) or think that they're better than they are, but if the tables were turned and Iowa was 8-0 with the same schedule that Minnesota's played and we were ranked #13, we'd probably be playing the DISRESPEKT card right, left, and center. Just food for thought.

Meanwhile, Iowa is actually ranked #18, having moved up a spot in the rankings after SMU's loss to Memphis. That's the second time this season that Iowa has moved up in the rankings despite not playing; once again, the winning move is simply not to play. Aforementioned SMU was the big faller this week, sinking from #15 to #23 after losing a shootout in Memphis on Saturday night. Memphis was the corresponding big gainer, jumping five spots from #24 to #19. And, finally, welcome to the polls, Navy! The Midshipmen are back in the Top 25 at #25. They're one of four American Athletic Conference teams in the Top 25 (along with #17 Cincinnati, #19 Memphis, and #23 SMU), which gives the AAC twice as many teams as the ACC. 

THE WEEK 11 COACHES POLL

RANK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Alabama (37) 8-0 1591
2 LSU (11) 8-0 1531
3 Clemson (9) 9-0 1495
4 Ohio State (8) 8-0 1492
5 Penn State 8-0 1361
6 Georgia 7-1 1263
7 Oregon 8-1 1236
8 Oklahoma 7-1 1143
9 Utah 8-1 1111
10 Baylor 8-0 980
11 Florida 7-2 941
12 Auburn 7-2 914
13 Minnesota 8-0 880
14 Michigan 7-2 746
15 Notre Dame 6-2 660
16 Wisconsin 6-2 591
17 Cincinnati 7-1 549
18 Iowa 6-2 527
19 Memphis 8-1 418
20 Wake Forest 7-1 392
21 Boise State 7-1 388
22 Kansas State 6-2 265
23 SMU 8-1 235
24 San Diego State 7-1 105
25 Navy 7-1 92

The Coaches Poll has the same teams in the Top 9 as the AP, but in a slightly different order. They have Alabama ahead of LSU in the top two spots and Clemson ahead of Ohio State in the next two spots. They also have Oklahoma ahead of Utah at 8/9, while the AP has the reverse there. 

Most of the other differences between the AP and Coaches Poll this week are pretty minor as well. For the first time all season (I think) both polls each have the same group of 25 teams; they just have them ordered slightly differently. Iowa is again the #18 team here, though, two spots behind Wisconsin (this week's opponent) at #16. 

Per the computers, Iowa is #18 in the Massey composite rankings, #16 in the Sagarin ratings, #17 in the FPI rankings, and #21 in the SP+ rankings. (And, incidentally, the computers dislike Minnesota even more than the human pollsters do...)

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